tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post4547114061388258661..comments2024-03-28T23:47:18.748-05:00Comments on Brennan's Pen: Alcohol 8 - The Fallacy of Fermentation OnlyTom Brennanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07852945471625701378noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post-56109570426949495882023-11-27T12:53:35.766-06:002023-11-27T12:53:35.766-06:00Some individuals are disturbed by the fact that cr...Some individuals are disturbed by the fact that crushed grapes in the Bible always fermented because of his own personal aversion to wine. They tend to interpret the Bible based on this, and are personally offended at the idea that a true believer in Jesus can enjoy wine without debauchery and still be holy, whereas the person who thinks the Bible totally forbids it has his own idea of what holiness is, and projects this onto everyone else. His solution: Claim that every time the Bible talks about enjoying wine it's only referring to grape juice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post-78063637416168210712023-08-07T10:06:25.231-05:002023-08-07T10:06:25.231-05:00I agree that fermentation in food/drink is often g...I agree that fermentation in food/drink is often good. I eat plain yogurt every day, for example. But unless I am mistaken, each of these fermented foods/drinks requires some level of human interaction, for lack of a better term. Is there anything produced/fermented entirely in nature that people ingest on a regular basis that is healthy for them? And I suppose even if the answer is yes, it does not then follow that alcohol is one of those. And even if it was, all the evidence, all of it, shows alcohol is a net negative health-wise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post-60512503684158384882023-08-06T11:04:44.345-05:002023-08-06T11:04:44.345-05:00I'm not disputing the idea that people drank u...I'm not disputing the idea that people drank unfermented drinks in Bible times. I am disputing the idea that people don't drink naturally fermented beverages. People have been drinking them for thousands of years. Grapes will produce a lovely lacto-fermented drink (no to little alcohol). Kombucha is naturally fermented tea and can be made at home. Humans have been preserving food for long term storage using fermentation for a long time. Think sauerkraut. Fermentation preserves AND increases available nutrients.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post-43300617074395495912022-05-17T22:31:06.314-05:002022-05-17T22:31:06.314-05:00None of these are primary sources. Not only are yo...None of these are primary sources. Not only are you a heretic, your only research is to quote other heretics blindly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post-73192155585297831822020-11-19T13:59:19.042-06:002020-11-19T13:59:19.042-06:00Brandon, I compiled this information from a number...Brandon, I compiled this information from a number of books I read in preparation for this series. I don't have access to my library at the moment, but here is what I remember I used:<br /><br />Bible Wines, William Patton<br />Should Christians Drink Wine and Alcohol? Ben Sinclair<br />Should a Christian Drink Alcohol? Richard Young<br />The Biblical Approach to Alcohol, Stephen Reynolds<br /><br />I also did miscellaneous internet research.Tom Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07852945471625701378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post-670714690681158742020-11-19T07:18:28.146-06:002020-11-19T07:18:28.146-06:00Edit: Do you have any primary sources regarding th...Edit: Do you have any primary sources regarding this research? Thanks! Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291292645332910894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post-37533783189806374982020-11-19T07:17:44.168-06:002020-11-19T07:17:44.168-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291292645332910894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2550425372402510047.post-86092701764965303412015-07-11T16:37:37.722-05:002015-07-11T16:37:37.722-05:00Interesting. I'm curious as to how they make ...Interesting. I'm curious as to how they make non-alcoholic beer. I do know whatever process they use must be fairly modern. In my experience, non-alcoholic beer has been just as controversial as adult beverages in the churches I've attended. <br /><br />There's the appropriateness factor which you haven't addressed (yet). Christians who are fine with consuming alcohol still embrace a stigma which holds them to limiting their drinking outside of church functions, the workplace, around children, etc. This holds true with non-alcoholic beer as well though not with grape juice. <br /><br />I confess I enjoy my O'Doul's or my Sharps every once in a while but I still have to exercise discretion where I drink it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134969557054416436noreply@blogger.com